Summary

Ben Reiser, the co-host of the podcast, shares the story of how he wrote the song "We're Not Gonna Make It" for his band in college, which ended up being recorded by The Presidents of the United States of America and becoming a hit, changing his life financially. He moved to Madison, Wisconsin with the royalty money he made from the song, and eventually connected with Scott Lucas to start this podcast after the passing of his previous podcasting partner.